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Part15.us has been quiet

Seems like it's been real quiet around here.. only a few new post here and there each week.

Both HB and the ALPB have been about 4 times more active lately then here. Has it been nap time here of something?.. I don't recall it ever being so quiet for so long. 

Yes I've noticed that too

Ever since a thread got terminated a little while ago it's been like this. I have spent more time over at ALPB myself only because there's lots of activity there.

Mark

Quiet-ness

"... Both HB and the ALPB have been about 4 times more active lately then here. ..."

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Just guessing, but could that be due to the most active former posters on Part15us lately favoring other sites where they might more freely post topics and responses of less relevance and accuracy, with respect to Part 15?

It WOULD be a guess, and it

It WOULD be a guess, and it would be wrong.

Activity on these sites tends to increase & decrease based on its participants and where they're at.  I've seen HB go quiet; the ALPB was quiet for months at one point, but has picked up nicely.

Each site has its interests and proponents at any given time.  I'm sure things will pick up here when they're ready to.

Wrong?

It WOULD be a guess, and it would be wrong.  ...

Just curious as to the proof used by anyone to believe/state that what I posted in Reply 3 of this thread would be, or is "wrong."

Since you made the claim,

Since you made the claim, Rich, it's really incumbent upon you to prove that you're right.  Much like the drama being played out in politics with the wiretapping accusations.

No, you claimed

No, you claimed that my guess in Reply 3 was wrong.

I just asked you to prove it.

"Just guessing, but could

"Just guessing, but could that be due to the most active former posters on Part15us lately favoring other sites where they might more freely post topics and responses of less relevance and accuracy, with respect to Part 15?"

I had to read that a couple times to comprehend the question. -I think you are suggesting that the reason its so quiet here lately is because everyone has gone elsewhere so they don't have to discuss part 15 related topics.

Frankly, I think your point makes no sense, or maybe I just haven't decipered your point correctly.

To start with, for what purpose would regulars leave one part15 forum to go to another part15 forum so that they can engage in non-part15 discussion?  Every part15 related forum has always, always, and always interacted in topics that have nothing to do with the hobby, but they of course interact about part 15 too.

It's a norm -regardless of what a forum's primary focus might be. Members are also going to talk about something totally unrelated, it's expected and unavoidable. I suppose we could start a discussion on reasons why we should not discuss anything except for part15, at least not while present within this forum. We could even take a vote, and ban mention of anything not specifically part15. That way I wouldn't have to ask why it's so quiet, actually I wouldn't even be permitted ask why it's so quiet unless the question reffered to my part15 transmitter not modulating. I know, we can start a discussion concerning the definition of "ground lead".

What do you mean by your comment Rich?

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

Too Busy

I have been too busy lately in Busy,Ky getting things ready for another move across the state of Kentucky. There are some really valid reasons for moving away from here, mainly the fact that there are no jobs here and the economy has nearly tanked in this county.

It has become too expensive to live here so we are moving to where the jobs are.
On the plus side (well there are many pluses) we will be in an area where i won't be fighting mountains to get a signal out past my road, civilization has moved forward instead of being lost in the old way of thinking. I just might get back to working with the broadcaster who gave me my first real break in commercial radio, they were a pleasure to work for.

There is a list of reasons to move but i rather not get into those in a public forum.

So anyway, this is what is keeping me busy.

 Barry of Blue Bucket Radio 1620 AM  - http://bluebucketradio.com - WQYY 664

Rich stirs up dust by saying:

"...and accuracy, with respect to Part 15?"

What is inaccurate Rich?

Druid Hills Radio AM-1710- Dade City, FL. Unlicensed operation authorized by the Part 15 Department of the FCC and our Resident Hobby Agent.  

my fiance being a nurse and me being disabled

i have been conetrating more on politics lately trying to help with the online fight to protect entitlements such as medicaid medicare and social security.

my part 15 has been running good lately and have no isssues or questions and what little has cropped up has been of a carrier current related nature and RFB is my go to expert for those issues.

 

this is why i haven't posted here much.

 

look at my posts at the other forum and you will see they have mostly been political postings.

 

something that is not allowed here.

 

 and actually my posting has gone down on the other forum as well.

 

no one seems to reply to my posts lately. it's no fun talking to yourself.

Part 15 Engineer

 

Booger 2016

I'm not a democrat or a republican, i'm a common sense moderate progressive

 

please don't forget to register and vote

All the message boards go

All the message boards go quiet every once in awhile. Part 15 is pretty niche so the effect is amplified a bit, unlike our signals.

In Rich's defence, SOME users have gone elsewhere where the rules regarding RF radiation discussion aren't as "strict". We know who they are, no need to jump down his throat this time.

There are other reasons,

There are other reasons, which I'm not going to go into here, why Rich is stirring the pot.

"There are other reasons,

"There are other reasons, which I'm not going to go into here, why Rich is stirring the pot."

Man is that an understatement.

 one reason I left was

 one reason I left was because of too much dictatorship and censorship.

 

 we all know about 15: 2:39 also 15: 219 and 15: 209. Being restricted from talking about anything other than this makes for a dull radio forum. You could always have a disclaimer when you discuss things that are Beyond part 15 but totally making it so that you can not makes for a very dull and dismal way of running a website in my opinion.

 

So I have exercised my right for freedom of speech and for free radio in general to go where that type of thing is allowed to be discussed. I do appreciate some of the things that we talked about on part 15 as far as audio quality and AM receivers and AM stereo these are things that are quite interesting. But when I posted a message about how FM could sound like on lower frequencies such as 25 megahertz as I have heard it the whole thread was deleted. There was a lot of information that could have been used to try and petition for FM modulation to be allowed on the frequencies of 520-1710Khz That would have been a good cause for revitalizing the medium wave band.

 

Just as some have resistance against my site having an Elite Form because they felt like they were left out so too there may be resistance against too much censorship. How much is too much that is a mystery but people's actions will pretty much pave the way in showing what too much is. Hobby broadcaster is another one of those sites where things are kind of up to Bill to decide what is posted and what is not and in my opinion  things should be allowed things should be allowed to be posted but maybe with a disclaimer on them.

 

 As for the CB post and music I have posted on my site as well as the ALPB that I didn't encourage that sort of behavior. But as a child and using part 15 and remembering that there is no content restrictions on part 15 I did experiment and posted some of the results. The reason for so again was only to talk about how AM radio could be improved. Also how some of these transmitters sound junkie compared to the experiment I did with a simple base station on a part 15 CB bass on channel 14.

 

 if you noticed it was again mentioned on the APB site as well as my site only to show once again that with good audio circuitry these AN transmitters could do better than what they do plus this talk about revitalizing the medium wave band could be relevant with this information.

 

 To sum it up you can't have it both ways you either have a censored website with few users and keeping everything down to the book or you become a little more relaxed and have things that are not so by-the-book and have your users. I decided to allow this and if someone wants to talk about the free radio movement they can do so in the elite section of my bored as I don't want Google and other search engines to crawl upon it and draw too much of that attention. When the form was locked for only Elite members the members know once they go in there that there may be sensitive material as was stated. They have two choices they can continue going to my board or they can choose not to this way it's a free board and I don't have to sit there and censor everything that people say. The only time I will sensor is if it promotes hate crimes or violence that doesn't belong on any board and that's just how I feel about that.

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We are so busy with family stuff

I have not been able to get on the ALPB site - -

I like it a lot though.  I read it as much as

I can.

But this is home for me for now.

There's not much to report anyway.

I'm just working on my Gates control

board and an old reel to reel deck.

Best Wishes,

Brooce, Part 15 Hartford CT

 

NOISE AND STATIC RADIO

Other Reasons (Reply 13)

There are other reasons, which I'm not going to go into here, why Rich is stirring the pot.

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ArtisanRadio:  If you believe and can prove that the "other reasons" you refer to above are valid, then why would you not post them here?

Not to get too off topic but

Not to get too off topic but FM is allowed on the mediumwave band. Part 15 does not specify what modulation method you can use, except spark gap which I believe is outright banned by the FCC.

Don't know if would work

Broadcasting FM on the AM band as the reciever isn't set up to be able to get the audio...don't think you would hear anything without mods to the radio's detector stage.

As for not much activity here this thread seems to be getting a lot of hits.

 

Mark

Slope Detector

Druid Hills Radio AM-1710- Dade City, FL. Unlicensed operation authorized by the Part 15 Department of the FCC and our Resident Hobby Agent.  

This doesn't

Doesn't according to the article eliminate the noise as the amplitude component isn't rejected which would be the reason for doing this.

Mark

@thelegacy.. I don't think

@thelegacy.. I don't think there has ever been any sense of "too much dictatorship and censorship" here. But what I think you refer to is when heavy objection is expressed in response to post which emphasize or promote an illegal and/or pirate methods of operation..

Thing like that as far as I am comcerned in a direct slap in the face of part 15, which by it's very definition is a legal unlicensed method of broadcasting. This is the specific name and purpose of this site, so to suggest, advise, and promote something that clearly opposes this purpose is extremely counterproductive to the purpose of this site. It's like preaching atheistic beliefs in a Christian church -- it has no place there and is a direct insult. So it's not a matter of censorship, it a matter of being disrespected.  

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

"To sum it up you can't have

"To sum it up you can't have it both ways you either have a censored website with few users and keeping everything down to the book or you become a little more relaxed and have things that are not so by-the-book and have your users."

I'm sorry, it's nicely put, but that is total nonsense. (it's actually the same thing I had said previously in a sacastic manner) In other scenirios that may apply, but can not possibly apply in this case... The epitome of part 15; it's very existing essence is "the book", so if your stray from "by-the-book", then it's outside the terrioty entirely - this is the point you seem to be oblivious too.  

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

"To sum it up you can't have

Ingore this - somehow posted twice.. this is edit to delete.

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

I think I missed what you

I think I missed what you were trying to say.  My point of the post was with an analog (non-digital) tuning capability it would be possible to extract audio from a FM signal by tuning slightly off of center if I have my facts straight. I know I have done it in the past. Quality was not great but it can be done.

Druid Hills Radio AM-1710- Dade City, FL. Unlicensed operation authorized by the Part 15 Department of the FCC and our Resident Hobby Agent.  

.. I got confused there for a

.. I got confused there for a moment Mighty, now I realize you were replying to Marks comment.

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

Double confused was that was

Double confused was that was WDCX.

 

That said, WDCX IIRC an FM signal does have just enough AM to demodulate albeit very poorly. The easiest way to test the idea is with a radio scanner that can switch modes.

This forum has never been

This forum has never been really active with 250+ post a week.  You want to talk about a dead forum Hobbybroadcaster it only got like 3 to 5 post a week. 

I notice

I notice that there are so many members....hundreds....take a look at the member list and who's new is changing all the time so more people are registering ongoing but only a handful actually post, mostly the same people all the time. Wonder why that is?

There would be a whole lot of activity, more than we could keep up with if maybe 10% of registered people contributed.

 

Mark

DJboutit wrote:

DJboutit wrote:

"This forum has never been really active with 250+ post a week.  You want to talk about a dead forum Hobbybroadcaster it only got like 3 to 5 post a week."

Not quite--on a typical day Hobby Broadcaster has 25 to 30 posts --NOT 3-5 a week. 

 

 

Mark said "...only a handful

Mark said "...only a handful actually post, mostly the same people all the time. Wonder why that is?"

That is pretty typical of Forums.  I was a member of the Bowen Island Community Forum - it had well over 500 'members', and yet only a handful (10-20, less than 5%) posted on a regular basis.  There could be many reasons for it - some are worried they'll look stupid or foolish, some are afraid of being criticized, some just don't want the hassle of dealing with others, etc.  Even on a community Forum we had our share of folks who were, shall we say, challenging to get along with.  You have to have relatively tough skin to post publicly.

MorningDJ said "...on a typical day Hobby Broadcaster has 25 to 30 posts...".  It really varies widely, both there, here and elsewhere.  There have been times where I think there were absolutely no posts on HB, and I've seen that here as well.  I don't think you can read anything into it.  Besides, I'll go for quality over quantity any day.

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