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$49 Talking House - NOT the enhanced version

For those who wnat to experiement:

http://www.iamradio.net/

Enhanced?

What does the enhanced version do that this does not?

Thanks.

Jim

Jim Henry HBR Radio 1610, serving Honey Brook, PA. and NW Chester County.

The Iam version has an

The Iam version has an improved audio fidelity circutry.. I don't know how much better it sounds  since I've never heard any Talking House before. I am tempted to get one of these due to the bargain price.. At least it is a 5.0 version which is supposed to sound better than any previous version.

But it might be a mute point, because it appears the modified improved fidelty versions have been discontinued as of last month.. I wonder what the reason for that. The 5.0 (but still named iAM) is now the only version available.

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

Taking House v5

I think for the work they put into it the ROI was not there.  I purchased one of the modified units and it does sound MUCH better.

Druid Hills Radio AM-1710- Dade City, FL. Unlicensed operation authorized by the Part 15 Department of the FCC and our Resident Hobby Agent.  

I can take pictures and

I can take pictures and provide detail of the mods if that would help?

Druid Hills Radio AM-1710- Dade City, FL. Unlicensed operation authorized by the Part 15 Department of the FCC and our Resident Hobby Agent.  

Comparison Video from Hobby Broadcaster

Druid Hills Radio AM-1710- Dade City, FL. Unlicensed operation authorized by the Part 15 Department of the FCC and our Resident Hobby Agent.  

I'm not sure what questions to ask

How bad is the $49 unit?

Does it do 100% modulation?

Is there audio distortion?  Or 

digital artifacts in the audio?

Is the audio response curve weird?

Does it sound like a telephone?

I'm confused.  I couldn't tell if it was

in the Hobby Broadcaster video

or not.  (Eyesight not too good.)

Nice video, by the way.

Brooce, Part 15 Hartford

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I'm not making this up

We are not at home, but at my 

sister-in-law's house.

Everybody left - - but I have been

staying back here taking care of

the dogs.  So...

I fell asleep on the couch.  The dream I

had was probably about the $49 transmitter.

It sure looked like it.  I took it apart and lost

most of the screws and some other little pieces.

Then something else happened in the dream.

I was moving furniture or something.

Then I woke up.  The dream is still clear in

my mind.  What a goofy chain

of events.

Brooce

 

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Part of Bruce's Dream

So that is what happened.

I have been finding small parts from a Talking House Transmitter showing up all over the house!

Bruce, I will return them to you. No, I mean to your dream.

Carl Blare

Hey Carl

My AMT-3000 is at least 10 years old

and is getting "rough around the edges"

from so many experiments in so many

different locations.

The above mentioned transmitter is

very tempting.   But I didn't expect to

fall asleep and dream about it.

That's really bonkers!   Still - it

might be a suitable backup for

the SS-Tran.

Oh well - back to the drawing board.

Brooce

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Post #7

So if anybody has any more info related to

the questions in Post #7 let me know.

Best Wishes

Brooce, Part 15 Hartford

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Oldie but a Goodie...

The following comments are subjective based on my personal experiences...

I've used the Talking House II for over 10 years.  When I first put it on the air, using the indoor wire antenna, I was not impressed with the performance.

Soon after I obtained the Talking House ATU, external antenna system.  Things improved greatly.  The range went from a few hundred feet to about half a mile.

Roof mounting with 4 short radials (12 to 15 feet) took the range up to about a mile.

The audio was a bit tinny, no low end.  I compensated with an external EQ box.  Later, after obtaining a schematic, I found that changing one coupling capacitor in the audio stage took the low freqency response from 300 Hz down to 30 Hz.  The sound became much fuller. 

It still had an odd warbling sound to it when my signal beat against a skywave signal on the same frequency at night as though my carrier was shifting in step with my audio.

Checking the transmitter output frequency I found it to be about 80 Hz off frequency.  I installed a small air variable capacitor at the phase locked loop oscillator crystal so the frequency could be precisely set.  Doing this seems to have eliminated the warbling effect.

The only other problem most have is the built in auto-tuner has a tendancy to get stuck.  The mechanism won't move.  Some tinkering and lubrication has helped but then again I don't use the internal tuner since I use the external ATU antenna system.

Today a have 5 Talking House II transmitters and 2 Talking House ATU antenna systems.

by MRAM 1500 

Charter Member - Association of Low Power Broadcasters

Chairman - ALPB

Mram, that's some valueable

Mram, that's some valueable first hand experience and modifications you describe, but based on the general consenses a stock Talking House 2 is an inferior model when compared to a stock Talking House 5, so your above response doesn't really address Micro's question about the 5.0 model.

I have no experience with any TH - But I know this much..  All Talking Houses were manufactured for 'speech quality" output and not particuarly suitable for music, and also are known for having poor quality control in production.

The only exception was when Radio Systems aquired the company in 2009 and then modified the existing version 4.0 and 5.0 models to inprove the audio (much the same, I presume as you did on your 2.0 models).. Those modified units the became rebranded the "iAM", and quality control was improved because each of those units were individualy tested before it was sent out to the consumer..

Now that Radio Systems has sold the company to ISS, those modifications are no longer being applied, and the iAM is now only a stock 5.0.. which I can only presume (and have heard others report) is superior to a stock 2.0 would be.  

I guess I haven't help much to answer the question either, but common sense dictates that if you can buy a brand new Certified AM transmitter for $49, don't expect premium quality performance, but that said, keep in mind these have been deemed perfectly acceptable for use in many state parks for years now as public information radio, so they aint complete garbage.

I still think they're a bargain for $49

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

Thanks you guys - you told me everything I needed to know

- - and more.

If I can get it I will.  But there are so many things

going on here - - I might not have time to do it.

I do very much like the idea of a self contained

unit.  I'm also prepared to deal with any problems

the unit might have.  Sometimes a "messed up" 

piece of electronics is more fun than one that 

is in perfect condition.

So, well see.

Thanks again!

Brooce

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Speaking of messed up electronics

I'll have to put a thread up about my

first vacuum tube phono oscillator.  THAT was

Messed Up.

Brooce

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Oops

This was an accidental duplicate of

the previous post.  I'm trying to eliminate/change

it.  I wonder what will hsppen.

Brooce

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I say get the TX and if

I say get the TX and if people like your station you may get donations.  Then you can buy a REAL AM TX like a Procaster or Rangemaster.  Then your signal may go 2 miles and you'll have fun.

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Other Than That...

Well Rich, it seems that since this thread was addressing the un-enhanced TH 5, I assumed that meant it does not have the audio quality of the enhanced TH 5. That being the case, the simple modification to the audio stage is probably all that is needed to open up the low end response. So if that brand new TH 5 just needs a little help to sound better, I think it's worth mentioning.

Other than that there's probably not a hill of beans difference in the 2 and the 5.

by MRAM 1500 

Charter Member - Association of Low Power Broadcasters

Chairman - ALPB

Few hundred feet?

By few hundred feet, do you mean about 200 feet in any direction before the signal fades out? At the moment, on foot my range is about 200 feet to the north, south, east or west without fading. when the signal completely fades on foot, its about 500 feet to the north, south, east or west of the transmitter site. In a car, the signal only gets 50 to 70 feet without fading, 100 to 150 feet of signal before a complete fade. And these specs are just with the indoor antenna and nothing else on a TH II.

Several Mods Were Made

1: Audio (more than just 1 cap)

2: Power Adjust for 100 mW DC input power

3: Netting Capacitor added for frequency adjustment

Druid Hills Radio AM-1710- Dade City, FL. Unlicensed operation authorized by the Part 15 Department of the FCC and our Resident Hobby Agent.  

The TH5s sold are enhanced

The TH5s sold are enhanced but not with the i.am enhancement. That said, FWIW the i.am version is still available on special order from ISS. (Just not for $49)

ISS also intends to bring back the external ATU.

I heard mention of that.. Bet

I heard mention of that.. Bet the ATU won't be $49 either.

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

I assume along with the ATI

I assume along with the ATI that you get the antenna.  Hope they make the ATU more efficient so you get the best range.

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I just ordered one

My AMT-3000 works fine, but

it's the only other working AM BCB

transmitter I own.  I think

it should get a little vacation.

I'll let all of you know what happens

when the TH 5.0 gets here.

Brooce Part 15 Hartford

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The InfOspot AM Transmitter

As Rich Powers of End80 Radio said earlier Radio Systems and ISS are now the same company, and along with the iAM, Talking House, a 10 Watt carrier-current transmitter, and their traffic systems, they also have an AM transmitter known as the InfOspot, labeled as "The best Part 15 AM transmitter".

Link to the InfOspot AM Transmitter

Carl Blare

I did say something like that

I did say something like that (not in this thread), but it's not accurate. Although I suspect they are somehow associated with each other, they are actually two entirely different companies in different states. Radio Systems recently sold the TH patent to ISS, so they now own it, but I'm 90% sure that the ISS "InfoStop" has always used a Talking House for the InfoSpot systems in the past (as well as presently), and it's clearly visible in some of their case studies. Example:

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

Information Drift

It happens all the time in human communications. A guy writes something, another guy comes along and reads it, thinking he understands, but somehow takes a whole different meaning from what was said.

Let's test it. What did I just say?

Anyway, Rich Powers has the patience and consideration to keep the record straight. "But it's not accurate. Although I suspect they are somehow associated with each other, they are actually two entirely different companies in different states."

What a shocker! The InfOspot contains a Talking House.

Well, whoever they all are they do a convincing job of describing the InfOspot.

I also am in a different state.

Carl Blare

I consider their description

I consider their description of the InfoSpot as kind of vague.. Best I can tell from pictures of installs is; as you see, it consist of a Talking House a digital player/recrder incorperated with a telco unit, and a power strip, with all of it encased in a protective steel box, and then up higher is a external tuning unit and antenna... However, I have heard mention they no longer include an ATU, not sure if that's true, but they were still ustilizing an ATU in 2013, and their website still shows an ATU as part of the package.

Athough the $49 Talking House/Iam do not include the improved audio circuitry, I presume that the InfoSpots still have them.

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

I got mine and it failed after running for

about 16 hours straight.

BUT what an interesting

piece of gear.  Before I get

into the issue of getting another

one - let me tell you what happened.

This is really funny in a strange way.

As soon as it came out of the box

I knew something wasn't right.  There

was a stange odor from the inside 

which I could smell through the holes

in the top of the cabinet.  It smelled

like burnt electronics.  So right away -

I didn't expect it to work.

And when it did work I

 was amazed.  I hadn't expected

that.  I put it on 1590 kHz.  (Because

I have many vintage radios that don't

go above 1610.)  I heard the little tuning

motor run and match the supplied wire antenna for that operating frequency.  

With the transmitter running in the

cellar - I ran upstairs and found a

"big fat carrier" on the vintage radio

up there.  I grabbed my IPOD nano -

ran back downstairs and plugged it

in.  The audio wasn't the best - but we

know there are mods to improve

upon that.  There was hum on the

carrier - but we know that when the

"near RF field" from the transmitter

intersects the 60 Hz RF component

in the house - that hum will appear on

the received signal.  I had some ideas

about how to improve that.

SO I was quite satisfied.  The

unit ran from about 6:PM that

evening and was still running

at 6:AM the next morning when

I took the dogs out.

I listened to the signal

on the radio that morning

and went back in the cellar

to take a look.  I was getting

excited about the prospects

of the whole thing.  My friend

down the street has an 

Inovonics 222 for me to

borrow long term.  This was

starting to be fun.  THEN I looked

down at the transmitter.  The digital

display - which previously had indicated

1590 was different now.  Only the 9 was

lit.  The 1, 5, and O had gone dark.  The

transmitter was still running fine however.  Thinking this was some

kind of minor glitch - I then disconnected

the 18 volt power cube.  Hoping for the best  - I reconnected the cube and listened for the unit to hopefully power

back up.  But there was nothing through

my portable GE Superadio.  Thinking I was in error - I tried again.  Still nothing.

The transnitter had died.

Now - I like this thing.  It's

not perfect - but a "turn-key"

Part 15 AM BCB transmitter

is a great thing to have.

So now we get to the the part

about getting another unit.

I don't know how to do that

yet and I hope I can with a zero

or very minimal cash outlay.  Heck

- I would pay $49 for just the motorized

antenna tuning section.  

And the real funny thing is

I never even got a chance

to go outside and see how

far the transmitted signal

went.  And THAT is the mark

of a true Part 15er.

"Reporting" from Hartford, CT,

this is

Brooce

 

 

 

 

 

 

expected that.

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That's a bummer Brooce. They

That's a bummer Brooce. They do have a 90 day return where they will send you a replacement unit, however you have to pay to ship the defective unit back, and also pay the shipping for the replacement unit. (as described at http://www.iamradio.net/contact.htm) -- I don't know how much your shipping was, but that doesn't sound reasonable to me to be at your expense for something that died the day you got it.

Hopefully they will take this into consideration and not apply those charges to replace it. Good luck and let us know how it goes

Rich Powers Part15, Take 2..

Hi Rich - - Nice to hear from you

Yeah - - I'm not sure I'm going

to pursue it.  Although I'm tilting

closer to Yes rather than No. 

By the way, I have always enjoyed

hearing about your Part 15 operation.

And the pictures you have sent out

have been a lot of fun to look at.

Best Wishes, Brooce

 

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